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In the days before music videos the only access people had to music was either on the radio or by going to concerts. The likelihood is that you wouldn’t go to a concert unless you’d heard the band and liked their music anyway. This meant there was less focus on a band/singer’s appearance and more on their music, some were lucky enough to have both, ie. The Beatles.
The creation of music videos meant that musicians were more than just voices, they now needed to look the part as well. Add to that the growing part technology has to play in the music industry these days. The whole industry seems to have gone completely the other way with most new artists being who can’t really sing but look really good on videos/merchandise.
Your thoughts?
Ironically, "The Buggles – Video Killed The Radio Star" was the first ever video showed on MTV!
BQ. Why are some people so scared of mice, which are much smaller than us, when no one seems to be scared of Micky Mouse, who is bigger than us?
hello, mr. tambourine man!! i tried to ask a question similar to this one. but it was in polls & surveys (know one ever takes anything seriously there) & i spelled everything wrong so know one toke my question seriously & a troll deleted it… now i’m not really old enough to know what it was like back then (know offense) but i would agree with you. there’s to much light on weather or not the ‘band’ is attractive. if then can get the target audience with there look rather then there music. shere back then some band did have that hole attractive aspect going on, like the beatles were freaken’ adorable, zeppelin were sex gods & jim morrison had those ultra tight leather paints……….anyway they all had something more to go on the just looks. they had talent. i whole heartily agree with you. mtv made it more about the looks of the artist, then there voices or talent. then with that it escalated into ‘bands’ like the jones brothers who only get what they have on there looks & what very little machine amped talent they have because that’s where the company’s aim audience lay’s. it all started with mtv & then that screwed up logic spreaded to the record company’s. that’s how i think the music company’s ruined everything. by making it to much about selling the artist themselves rather then selling the artist’s music. i 100% agree with you mr. tambourin man.
bq: i really have know beefs with mice. i actually think there cute. cockroaches are what i’m afraid of. there icky. =)
that’s a very good point, and one of the only intelligent things ive ever seen on this website. i personally feel the industry is just upside down since mtv, which, i feel, has killed music.
Bq: mickey is evil, but another good point
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I couldn’t possibly have put that better myself. Well done.
BA: I think if you put a bow tie on every regular mouse in the world, people would be much more sympathetic to mice.
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Avenged Sevenfold and Slipknot are great examples of that. Decent bands who get slated cause of their "appearance".
BQ: Cause Micky is luring everyone into a false sense of security.
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You bring up an excellent point. I do think there is too much emphasis on how musicians look than sound these days.
I would also posit that the Internet has now killed the Video Star, the irony being that MTV, which successfully destroyed the music industry, doesn’t even play music at all any more.
BQ: I am scared of Mickey! The mouse is clearly a coked-up control freak.
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I definitely agree. I never really thought of music videos like that before, honestly.
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couldn’t agree more.
BQ. would you run away from a mouse with suspenders and a bowtie? no. you would not.
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Yes,why? well take the dire strats for example. they were ok, but became popular by their videos alone. It’s like going to a concert of black sabbath because you only want to hear paranoid or iron man. Also, every rap video shows the rappers throughout doing the same thing. waving their hands around, chasing a girl or dancing.
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Disney is a prime example of this…. and Nickelodeon is looking to join in/cash in.
I saw, before a movie a while back, one of those "behind the scenes" ads that they run over and over ad infinatum. It was for the upcoming movie "Spectacular." It featured girls screaming at, around, and inside of a large music venue – not an arena… but a large-sized music hall.
Cut to:
Pretty boy who I’ve never seen before talking about how this will be his first performance in front of anyone.
He’s never sung on stage, let alone in front of a crowd.
The show is sold out…. girls are crying for him… people are being turned away at the box office…. and this movie hasn’t even come out. No music has been leaked, but it’s ready-made Nickelodeon-Disney pop refuse…. hyped beyond belief before anyone has heard a note.
This kid is playing a venue most bands would give their left nut to open for someone at…. and this kid is headlining….
They say that Elvis Presley – when he was first starting out – he would play these small cafes and music stores,and the General would pay girls to come to the show, scream, cry, faint, etc. And the masses would then follow suit.
This, I’m assuming, is that same formula done on a massive, massive scale.
Elvis Presley was the birth of this trend…. MTV was merely another step in the process, and Disney, Nickelodeon, and the like are taking it to it’s next phase.
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Video didn’t kill the radio star, radio killed the radio star. When MTV first came out, I was in 8th grade (wow I am really old) anyway, I bought tapes based on the videos I saw and liked on MTV. (cd’s came much later for me) my point is, at that time in the New York/New Jersey area where I live, rock radio was just as exciting as MTV.
I could get good music from either source and never lack for something good to listen to. The real death of radio IMO came when these programming directors stopped listening to what rock fans wanted to hear and went to preset playlists.
This is why when the rock station by me does the top 1043 songs of all time, the first 500 or so are GREAT SONGS you haven’t heard in years.
Wow. I just went on a major rant, sorry about that.
I blame Disney for this latest round of garbage, but this style of bad music has always been around. They just do a better job of marketing.
BA: I am terrified of mice. I always have been. I never liked Mickey mouse either.
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You’re soooo right! Seems like in the "good ol’ days" music was for the ears & now it’s more a visual thing…that’s why a lot of songs lack "staying power" & are forgotten by the time the next ‘flashy’ artist/video comes out.
BA: Actually…Mickey scares the $h*t out of me…what’s with those HUGE hands?
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My answer to that is:
Name the last really really hit-by-a-truck,backed-up-over-and-hit- again looking singer that made it huge on the charts.
If you can come up with one, then video didn’t kill the radio star.
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I’m waiting…
That’s always how I’d viewed it. Reading Radio Waves answer, I sort of feel differently. I agree that MTV wasn’t the only factor. I mean, most top bands in the past usually had at least a few very attractive people. But I think you could still make it, to a point, without looks. Maybe you couldn’t achieve the type of popularity The Beatles did, but you could still be, say, Styx (who certainly didn’t rely on looks). Now there really is no middle ground. There are bands that are hugely popular mainly because of their image, and bands that are either underground or marginally popular whose image has very little to do with their music. I think MTV was the biggest reason for this shift. People rarely even listen to the radio any more; it’s all YouTube, which, for music, is basically just MTV on steroids. You really need image to make it big, and while this may have started as far back as the ’50s, video is what really made image equal to, if not more important in some cases, than music.
BQ: Well, I don’t understand people’s fear of any kind of mouse…
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hello, mr. tambourine man!! i tried to ask a question similar to this one. but it was in polls & surveys (know one ever takes anything seriously there) & i spelled everything wrong so know one toke my question seriously & a troll deleted it… now i’m not really old enough to know what it was like back then (know offense) but i would agree with you. there’s to much light on weather or not the ‘band’ is attractive. if then can get the target audience with there look rather then there music. shere back then some band did have that hole attractive aspect going on, like the beatles were freaken’ adorable, zeppelin were sex gods & jim morrison had those ultra tight leather paints……….anyway they all had something more to go on the just looks. they had talent. i whole heartily agree with you. mtv made it more about the looks of the artist, then there voices or talent. then with that it escalated into ‘bands’ like the jones brothers who only get what they have on there looks & what very little machine amped talent they have because that’s where the company’s aim audience lay’s. it all started with mtv & then that screwed up logic spreaded to the record company’s. that’s how i think the music company’s ruined everything. by making it to much about selling the artist themselves rather then selling the artist’s music. i 100% agree with you mr. tambourin man.
bq: i really have know beefs with mice. i actually think there cute. cockroaches are what i’m afraid of. there icky. =)
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i can be smart when i want to….
I think ClearChannel killed the Radio Star.
Mindless repetitive formulaic music that stripped all freshness from Mainstream. But your points on the Video are dead on.
Though it should be noted that Bands like Queen were famous for their Stage presence long before the MTV phenomena. (also ironic of course is that there is no music on MTV anymore)
But It is apparent when you watch Pop, that the size of a singers lungs seem to matter more than how she uses them.
Britney Spears, for instance would NEVER have been noticed during the Radio Era. Or teh JoBlos.
Thank goodness for the Underground and the like where folks can just enjoy music.
BQ- Because people are stupid and irrational? Didn’t your preceding question prove that? =P
here is some good reason to hate Mickey though………
http://www.momentsintime.com/Disney%20Book%20Page.htm gotta love those enlightened individuals………
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Very true, however at this point the already wounded radio star is beaten to death by online music sites
BQ:Because Mickey takes off the uniform at the end of the day and drives back to his mom’s house in Orlando
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when MTV first came out I watched at a little,I still had the reocrd store to go to to pick out the music that I wanted to hear.Can’t do that no more unless you run across someone having a yard sale or fea market or auctions
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Considering that MTV imploded and should no longer be called MUSIC television, it looks like radio won this fight.
BQ: I only freak out if the mice in question are dead and bloody thanks to my cat. And when I went to Disney World when I was about 3 or 4, I WAS afraid of Mickey Mouse even though I couldn’t wait to meet him. I screwed that one up. 8~D
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That’s not entirely true, although they first heard music on radio, people use to have record parties. Where friends would get together & play their favorite records.
Video killed the radio star was the first video ever played & also the 1 millionth. You can bet it will the 2 millionth also!!!
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